June 2007

When I was growing up, I often heard my grandmother refer to someone as “a woman of accomplishment,” though, to my regret, I never really asked her to explain that to me. I had a general sense that it meant she was well-educated, though not necessarily formally, or that she had learned and nurtured certain skills that caused her to rise above others in some sort of desirability.  Though I might not have been able to define it, I knew it when I saw it.

What did it mean to be a woman of accomplishment 50 or 100 or 200 years ago?

What does being a woman of accomplishment involve in the 21st century?  What abilities or traits might cause a woman to be called a woman of accomplishment in the new millennium?

And, most importantly, what does it mean for a Christian woman in the 21st century to be a woman of accomplishment?


Within the confines of Christian modesty, how does the Christian girl determine how she is to present herself physically to the world? Should this be discussed in terms of different interpretations of what the Bible says about modesty? Where does culture come into play? Does modesty encompass more than the covering of the body? Does drawing attention to oneself in order to dress in a way that is not culturally “normal” make you immodest (for instance, wearing floor length Jane Austen gowns to the supermarket, or wearing make-up that may be traditional in other cultures, but not in ours, to work)?

How do you define what it means to be feminine and modest in our culture? Upon what do you base your conclusions?

I don’t think anyone has put up a link to this yet. (Correct me if I’m wrong since I’ve had a hard time keeping up with all the comments!) Raising Visionary Daughters: An Interview with the Botkin Sisters was just uploaded last week. If you want to hear the Botkin sisters for yourself, you can go here. I’m not going to say anything about it so as to let people form their own opinion while listening.

Over the course of the past week or so, I’ve noticed that a number of books and articles have been recommended in the general flow of comments. I thought it might be helpful to have a post dedicated to recommended reading since it would be easier than trying to skim through hundreds(!) of comments in various posts.

So what have you found helpful? Please share the titles of books or links to articles online that have helped you clarify your understanding of what it means to be a godly woman. If you could include a brief sentence or two giving a brief summary that would be very helpful. For example, “A very readable book defending the complimentarian position.” or “A scholarly book defending the egalitarian view.” or “An article that refutes the idea that the Proverbs 31 woman must be at home and never work.”

Thank you in advance for all the women you will help by adding to this resource!

Modesty, femininity, godly womanhood, etc.  What do they actually mean for a Christian who is seeking to obey and honor Jesus Christ in the 21st century?  Should we return to a time when women did not have the right to own property or vote?  Is this a more Biblical way to live?  Should women receive equal pay for equal work?  If so, how is that supported by Scripture? May a Christian woman hold public office?

Following up on some of the commentary regarding the Botkin sisters and patriocentricity, I would like to encourage you to look at these clips:

The first is the “teaser” for an upcoming movie to be produced by the Gunn brothers.

http://www.visionforum.com/hottopics/blogs/dwp/2005/09/   (scroll down to September 23, 2005)

Now the movie is about to be released and here is a trailer for it:


Here is also a link to the writings of John Knox for which this project is named:


Any thoughts?

Here at the TW blog, we do a lot of talking about women, with the intention of engaging one another in Biblically centered discussions regarding our roles and practical ways to honor the Lord.

But though our subjects are usually female-centric, our responses come from interaction with all sorts of non-gender-specific resources. In several discussions, especially recent ones, I find myself returning to a college hermeneutics class, passages of the Bible I’ve already studied, messages I’ve heard.

One resource I’ve found especially helpful–not just for blog discussions but for spiritual edification in general–is the downloadable messages from a recent New Attitude conference held in Louisville, KY, which brought many young people together around one topic: discernment.

Whatever our views on female education, homemaking, careers, etc., I suspect we who write and we who read this blog do so for one reason: we want to seek to honor Christ and love others in the best way possible. And I’m sure all we contributors would agree that glorifying God is priority #1.

Because discernment is so vital to a proper discussion or understanding of the Bible, I really recommend these messages. They’re free, they’re clear, they’re Biblical.

Having just spent a delightful two plus weeks with my charming, college educated daughter and her little boys, I got up this morning to be introduced to this link and I am appalled. I am just about to begin reading the Botkin girls’ book entitled So Much More for a project I am working on, but this documentary by them is truly over the top. Please watch it and think about the heresy that is being passed off as “biblical womanhood.”

This documentary on visionary daughters is frightening on a variety of levels.

Please note that this discussion has continued on a second thread since it was getting way too long to upload! Please join us here to keep discussing visionary daughters.

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