Someone posed a great question to me which has turned into a suggestion and now a new blog thread. She wondered if there was or could be a “best of” quotes from patriocentrists for those who are overwhelmed at the huge amount of information online regarding the patriocentrists. (This blog alone has nearly 21,000 comments, many of which address this issue and it is only one of many commenting on the same topic.)

To that end, I am beginning a new thread on this blog that is for direct quotes only, along with links to the quote in context if online or a few lines surrounding the quote along with a reference if it is not available on line. I believe this idea is a good one. The most effective way to refute wrong teaching is with the real words of real patriocentrists.

Let’s also refrain from discussing those quotes on this thread and instead if you want to discuss them, bring your comments back over to the current running thread on here, listing the quote number you are talking about. I am in the process of going back through all the comments myself and will be posting quotes that fit the criteria. Please feel free to do likewise.

Another note:  I will be removing any attempts to discuss the comments on this thread and if there is an error, please drop me a note and I will correct the original post.  I want to make this as easy as possible for wanderers who want to understand all the uproar over patriocentricity!

Continuing here from thread 7.

Please note I also changed the dates so the new “best of” thread could remain at the top of the page.

Please continue discussion here!

Continuing from thread six…..

We continue our discussion of all thing patriocentric.  If you are new to this blog and are researching the patriarchy movement or any of those who are promoting it within homeschooling circles, there are many back threads given to this topic and, along with the nearly 20,000 comments, much information that will help you sort through the key issues.  Many of the comments also provide links.  Please e-mail the moderator of this forum if you have any questions at shesthatmom@gmail.com

This continues the discussion from the other threads on the same subject.

Carry on.

I have been reading and enjoying a book called Dating Jesus by Susan Campbell, which is the biography of a woman who grew up in a fundamentalist environment and it tells the story of how it affected her perception of God and her relationship with Him. I am especially enjoying the author’s sense of humor and her ability to recall details from her life experiences, ones many of us can relate to, to show how even the smallest practices or beliefs can have life-long implications for us.

Though I didn’t grow up in a fundamentalist home or church, I related to many of the things she has written and it has brought to mind so many of my own thoughts I had as I grew up and tried to find my way as a young believer. Though I have not come to many of the same conclusions the author of the book has embraced, I know there are things that are just a part of who I am because of those influences in my life, for good or for bad.

Some of them are big impressions that shaped my thinking, like my neighbor who beat his wife, her screams coming in through the windows in my room at night. The woman always had a black eye or bruises on her arms. Several nights a week we would hear the man coming home drunk, the yelling, the swearing. And then one day word came that he had died in a motorcycle accident and I insisted that my father take me to the funeral.

My Baptist background didn’t allow for drinking or swearing, even though I knew a woman or two in my own church often sported similar bruises. So it intrigued my 9 year old mind that this man’s funeral would be in a church. I remember peering inside the casket and wondering how much of his face was really his, since my parents had whispered that they doubted there would even be an open casket, his injuries were so severe. I also remember the man’s mother, wailing and sobbing until she collapsed on the floor holding on to his hand. I had never seen such grief or hopelessness. I remember wondering that day about forgiveness and repentance and if a drunk wife beater could still ask Jesus to forgive his sins in that moment between when he lost control of his motorcycle and when he hit the pavement. It was my first brush with eternity and it shaped my thinking about evangelism and how we treat other people and the sacredness of marriage and compassion toward those who are victims for my whole life. In my bed at night, I would listen to the quiet sounds coming from the neighbor’s house and think about these things and how they related to God and me and our relationship.

Other church impressions that have been made on my life are not nearly so dramatic, like the water fountain with the plaque hanging above it “in memory of Dr. Dimmitt.” To this day, I can’t drink from a water fountain without thinking of this guy I only know of as related to, well, water.

I would love to hear your stories, too, especially as they have influenced your quest for true womanhood. Please share.

Why do you believe what you do about God? Have there been times that you doubted and why? During periods of crisis when your faith has been sorely tested, what did you do? Were there times when you watched as events unfolded and you knew that the Lord was the one who placed you right where you were and for a purpose? Have you ever decided to turn your back on God? What caused that and how did you respond? Please share those “it had to be God” stories here as well as your stories of unbelief.

I am opening a new thread since the other one is, once again, so difficult to open. Please continue discussion from the last thread here.

We will continue the discussion here. It WAS getting too hard to load that last thread!

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